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According to the APR website, a stock Q3 2.0 TSI CCTA EA888 engine actually produces 222 HP and 222 TQ. Not the 200 HP and 207 TQ that are reported by VAG.

Does anyone know if these numbers are correct?
And if so, why doesn’t Audi just say it and eliminate one of knocks that competitors use against it?

Perhaps it is the old transverse versus longitudinal layout thing that has existed in VAG cars since at least the 90s. I kinda remember the 1.8T 20 valve in my longitudinal Passat made something like 10 HP less than the same engine in a transverse Jetta/Golf.
 

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According to the APR website, a stock Q3 2.0 TSI CCTA EA888 engine actually produces 222 HP and 222 TQ. Not the 200 HP and 207 TQ that are reported by VAG.

Does anyone know if these numbers are correct?
And if so, why doesn’t Audi just say it and eliminate one of knocks that competitors use against it?

Perhaps it is the old transverse versus longitudinal layout thing that has existed in VAG cars since at least the 90s. I kinda remember the 1.8T 20 valve in my longitudinal Passat made something like 10 HP less than the same engine in a transverse Jetta/Golf.
Audi has typically delivered engines that consistently "measure" more than their ratings. Remember that dynos use correction factors (based on all sorts of 'local' data) to produce results/ratings too, and it's easy to confuse what/where the ratings are relative to factory specs. Note that APR's numbers are "observed" and not merely a note of factory ratings.

Thus is further complicated by the fact that within several platforms the same engine may produce different results due to things as subtle as intake and exhaust routings - very sensitive to forced induction engines such as modern turbos or superchargers...

The CCTA EA888 is usually rated from 200-225 and observations fall in the plus 10% range depending on specific platform/options. The engine is rather easily tunable to just under or just over 300 hp with moderate code and fuel octane sensitivities with some intake and exhaust work.
 

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I guess it is safer to lose a few sales due to low HP claims than to lose millions of dollars due to inflated HP claims, a'la Hyundai.
 

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I guess it is safer to lose a few sales due to low HP claims than to lose millions of dollars due to inflated HP claims, a'la Hyundai.
You also have to consider that some people know there is hidden power or just see the reported power as being sufficient and then some that even go as far as getting an ECU tune done.
Shouldn't have much of an effect on sale.s
 

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This 2.0 is an interesting engine. It can be 200 hp in our case, 220 hp in other cases, 257 hp on the 2016 A6 and 292 on the S3.

All in how it's "tuned/chipped" and hardware modifications.
 

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This 2.0 is an interesting engine. It can be 200 hp in our case, 220 hp in other cases, 257 hp on the 2016 A6 and 292 on the S3.

All in how it's "tuned/chipped" and hardware modifications.
The A6 and S3 versions have a bit more differences than just chip tuning though, but the basics are in fact there ...
 
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