[anonymous398]

Being a novice in the world of keyless entry, I searched for info on car theft via the key fob on keyless entry cars. I didn't find a consensus.

What do you all think? Is it a possibility or not? Do you put your fobs in protective enclosures or not?

thanks for your thoughts...

 

[Monsoon]

Do you put your fobs in protective enclosures or not?

thanks for your thoughts...

Anything is possible but never had a problem and not too concerned. But may I sort of change the subject as far as keyless fobs go. Please have a few Carbon Monoxide detectors in your house as it's easy to leave the car running in the garage by accident. People die from this way too often.

 

[Klassic]

It is more than possible, we've seen this happen on so many occasions with devices as small as a laptop.

 

[rnlabas]

It can happen to ALL keyless systems and NO ONE is really immune - so take whatever precautions seem to make the best sense for you...

 

[anonymous398]

Thanks all. I think I'll buy a couple of fob guards. Can't hurt.

 

[Klassic]

You could... but it's really not necessary.

If someone can hack to that capability, they don't need you're key fob close to the car for them to get in.

All the key fob does, when you push the button, it sends out a radio wave with a function code to the cars receiver.

All they have to do, figure out what that 40-bit code is that's compatible with your vehicles receiver.

 

[rnlabas]

You could... but it's really not necessary.

If someone can hack to that capability, they don't need you're key fob close to the car for them to get in.

All the key fob does, when you push the button, it sends out a radio wave with a function code to the cars receiver.

All they have to do, figure out what that 40-bit code is that's compatible with your vehicles receiver.

You're right - the real shield needs to be on the car - but than that defeats the use of the real remote too. The vehicle is essentially always listening, so it's available to ANYBODY sending out a signal to it that it would/could/should respond to. Hackers just sit by your car - no matter where or even if your remote is nearby - and poke codes at it (your car) until it answers. And it will - just as it's designed to do. Your car will think the signal IS your remote and voila - opensessame.

But there remains the NFC chip still needed to start the car, but really that just becomes a small matter of the physics needed to defeat the mechanical lock and hotwire. Most cars do have another security circuit - an ECU immobilizer that will prevent the car from starting, butu then it becomes just a tow away if they really want your car.

If it's just the stuff in your car, they're done. If your car is SO valuable then it's gone too...

 

[Klassic]

Couldn't have said it better myself ^^ Thank you very much for that lol

 

[DampDuffer]

Nothing to do with key fobs, or Whole Foods for that matter, but as my wife got in her Q3 after shopping at Whole Foods this week she noticed a man standing at the entrance to the store holding his phone out in front of him while apparently looking at the screen.

After starting the car my wife noticed the MMI screen was asking, "Connect to Peter's phone?"

Just guessing, but it would seem that "Peter" was looking for a Wi-Fi hotspot for his phone. My wife said that as there was no "**** No!" selection she could select, she simply selected "no."

(**** above was not a naughty word, it was simply the opposite of heaven, but this website is apparently very, very sensitive (overly sensitive?) to four letter words).

 

[Klassic]

Lol this website is kind of odd.. there's words that you can say that you shouldn't be able to, and then words that you should be able to, but can't

But gosh darn Peter huh ?! Mooching son of a gun ...

 

[rnlabas]

He|| yes !!