[BobInPa]

Most and Least Reliable Cars


• Audi, once a sinkhole of service problems, finished third. Not only was it Audi’s best showing ever, it was by far the most reliable European brand. Audi has enjoyed several years of upward progress now, so its good standing is looking less and less like a fluke. Part of the reason is that it has relatively few truly new designs. The Audi Q3 SUV, which was already on sale in Europe for a few years, debuted in the U.S. as the most reliable new car in the survey.

 

[StlRamsFan]

Where do u see the this information?

 

[BobInPa]

Where do u see the this information?

It is in
http://www.consumerreports.org/cars/most-and-least-reliable-cars

 

[Q3User]

Where do u see the this information?

Graphically here:

http://www.consumerreports.org/cars/how-car-brands-compare-for-reliability

 

[Q3User]

Most and Least Reliable Cars


• Audi, once a sinkhole of service problems, finished third. Not only was it Audi’s best showing ever, it was by far the most reliable European brand. Audi has enjoyed several years of upward progress now, so its good standing is looking less and less like a fluke. Part of the reason is that it has relatively few truly new designs. The Audi Q3 SUV, which was already on sale in Europe for a few years, debuted in the U.S. as the most reliable new car in the survey.

Great news for the brand esp. in light of the dieselgate.

 

[AudiFox]

Not surprising with Lexus and Toyota but good on the Q3 for getting the most reliable new car spot in the U.S.

 

[DampDuffer]

That graph has graphically shown the dilemma I've been facing for some time.....it's difficult to sell/trade-in a car when it is absolutely trouble free!

My wife and I finally broke down and sold our Mazda to get the Q3, but it was based solely in the Q3's styling and driving enjoyment, because the Mazda was virtually trouble free (but not fun!)

Now we face the dilemma again....our Lexus has NEVER had a single issue, so why would we consider getting rid of it? Probably same answer as above....we just want to have a car that is more fun with updated styling.

Although cableguy decided against the Lexus NX and instead went with the Q3....I think I'll go for both and purchase an NX F-Sport to run along side our Q3.
Styling and fun....what more could two (too) old grandparents ask for! >

 

[john]

That graph has graphically shown the dilemma I've been facing for some time.....it's difficult to sell/trade-in a car when it is absolutely trouble free!

My wife and I finally broke down and sold our Mazda to get the Q3, but it was based solely in the Q3's styling and driving enjoyment, because the Mazda was virtually trouble free (but not fun!)

Now we face the dilemma again....our Lexus has NEVER had a single issue, so why would we consider getting rid of it? Probably same answer as above....we just want to have a car that is more fun with updated styling.

Although cableguy decided against the Lexus NX and instead went with the Q3....I think I'll go for both and purchase an NX F-Sport to run along side our Q3.
Styling and fun....what more could two (too) old grandparents ask for! >

I do think the NX F-Sport is nice and worth getting. My wife's RX was trouble free for 10 years! She was very apprehensive about getting something other than Lexus and this report today has made her very happy!

 

[Otto]

I don't read about many problems at all on the forum. It is one of those things where you don't really realize how nice it is to not have problems because nothing ever happens. Like how breathing normally is such a blessing and you only realize when you get a cold and have congestion.

Audi could use some good press right now. The VW thing really gets to me.

 

[Q3User]

I am surprise Lexus/Toyota is up there as there were fatalities in their history the last 5-6 years - which is the the result of the stuck pedal in the lineup.

 

[liy]

I do think the NX F-Sport is nice and worth getting. My wife's RX was trouble free for 10 years! She was very apprehensive about getting something other than Lexus and this report today has made her very happy!

If you put any credence in Consumer Reports, you should know that the October 2015 issue lists the Lexus NX 200t/300h as one of the "Worst cars of 2015" p 54.


LIY

 

[DampDuffer]

If you put any credence in Consumer Reports, you should know that the October 2015 issue lists the Lexus NX 200t/300h as one of the "Worst cars of 2015" p 54.

Yes, I did see that a few weeks ago, so expected the consumers to rate the Lexus lower....but after corresponding with at least two dozen owners I've only heard the most minor of complaints, and those were about things such as navigation restrictions (not being able to execute all functions while on the move) and size of the boot or console.

Apparently reliability has been a non-issue.

Here's what Consumer Reports wrote:

The Lexus brand promises luxury trappings, a supple ride, and a soothing cabin. But the NX’s proletarian Toyota RAV4 underpinnings show through—with a firm, jostling ride. Its handling is no match for its German rivals. Some interior bits feel cheap, and the infotainment system’s touchpad is challenging to manipulate while driving. Lexus can do better.

The NX was introduced for a "different" market....not necessarily for those who are looking just for luxury, but for those wanting more performance and edgy style in a Lexus. I've test driven the NX F-Sport just after and before driving my wife's Q3....they are certainly not the same, but they both have their strong points.

I personally like the interior a lot, and did not find the touchpad to be a problem.....actually easier than getting into the Q3's MMI, but for both vehicles I used the voice recognition feature over 80% of the time. As for the "jostling ride," gimmee a freaking break, that must have been written by someone who normally wears silk pajamas while being chauffeured by one of those self-driving robot cars. The ride is really, really good....better than my current "luxury" Lexus.

(BTW, I don't have anything against silk or satan pajamas, I grew up envying Hugh Hefner, but those self-driving cars......)

 

[liy]

You might be interested in this Lexus NX F Sport review that appeard a while back in Car and Driver:

http://www.caranddriver.com/lexus/nx

LIY

 

[j_vincent]

I've had Audi after Audi since my '97 A4. It amazes me how they have improved the product to the point of delivering a perfect vehicle every time. My last four Audis have been absolutely flawless on delivery. About to take my S3 in for the 5000 mile service; zero issues. Already had the Q3 in for a 5000 mile service; zero issues. My '13 Allroad the same. My '10 A5 the same.

The only break was for a '12 Touareg TDI that I was forced to lemon. Happy to be back in the Audi fold x2.

 

[DampDuffer]

You might be interested in this Lexus NX F Sport review that appeard a while back in Car and Driver:

Thanks for that, the review pretty much sums up what I experienced during my NX tests also.

Interesting though that C & D ranked the small luxury SUVs like this:
1. X-1
2. GLA
3. Q3
4. NX
5. MKC
6. Evoque

I've driven all those cars, some extensively, and would rate the Q3 and NX as tied for first, but for different reasons and purposes. In my case the purpose for the NX is the greater room I need compared to the Q3 we already own....a car I cannot fit my golf clubs into without lowering a rear seat. I really like the fun of driving both cars, but give the edge to the Q3.
Also, from the research I've done, the Q3 and NX have by far the better reliability record.....:nerd:

 

[cableguy]

Hey DampDuffer, My wife and I actually liked the NX based on the all too short test drive at the Portland Lexus dealership. My decision not to get the NX came down to a) longer vehicle than I need and coming from Mini seemed large b) no dealer in Central Oregon so any warranty work or routine maintenance requires ~150 mile or more journey and potential overnight stay in Salem, Eugene or Portland area (and this is a new model so risk of issues is greater than average for Lexus) and lastly c) Lexus would not allow me to order the car in the option config I wanted, forcing me to remove desired options or add options not desired because they are not producing desired config for this area of the country. I could also note the less than enthusiastic reviews of the infotainment joy stick interface but that wasn't going to be a deal maker or breaker. I liked the aggressive look of the FSport but didn't like the fact that I could not get the desired interior color with that option (another odd limitation) and it pushed up the price even more. Perhaps in the future Lexus will add warranty service in Central Oregon and we can consider them if we decide to replace either the Outback or the Audi Q3. If you get the NX I hope you love it, Lexus is a great car and incredibly reliable.

 

[deverelle]

More good news for the Q3: http://www.winknews.com/2015/10/20/most-and-least-reliable-cars/

 

[AudiFox]

Toyota, Lexus and Audi may be too reliable when you're waiting for it to break down in order to justify a new one. Still trying to run my old Camry into the ground...

 

[DampDuffer]

....and lastly c) Lexus would not allow me to order the car in the option config I wanted, forcing me to remove desired options or add options not desired because they are not producing desired config for this area of the country......I liked the aggressive look of the FSport but didn't like the fact that I could not get the desired interior color with that option (another odd limitation) and it pushed up the price even more. .

Yeah, the various configuration restrictions, including the interior colors you can get with the various exterior colors, are still annoying.

Example: to get a Matador Mica Red NX with a beige/tan/cream interior, I need to order a 300h hybrid....the F-Sport in Red offers a black interior only. I'm not particularly bothered by going with black if I get a red F-Sport, but it's nice to have options....which frankly, there are still more of in the NX than in the Q3....maybe too many options.

BTW....just as with the Q3, the Lexus is unable to build enough NX models to meet the worldwide demand....especially in the US and Canada.

 

[AudiFox]

Is that why the option selections are so restrictive? So they can streamline the production process?